Most people first got to know Dan Snow as a brilliant young history presenter, fronting major BBC documentaries and events.
He fast became a household name as one of the top historians on television.
Jonathan Skogmo founded one of the most successful media start-ups of modern times.
Jukin Media became the home of Fail Army, People Are Awesome and Pet Collective, at the same time as pioneering the licensing of user-generated content for brands.
Here are five of my favourite prophecies from the Live Call:
An Avatar or virtual human will win a major award
IP wars will hot up as producers fight for the right to exploit multiple income streams
Having sold our business to Future Plc, both Alex and I left to pursue other projects in 2020 and 2021 respectively.
So it was a delight to come back together again, to reminisce on our amazing shared journey and to record this podcast.